| Description | Mr and Mrs William Holland and Mr and Mrs Rodgers, who live in Poole, talk with Charles Parker about travellers in the local area.
Track 1: Mrs Holland talks about 'gypsies' going to the toilet in the fields where the children play. She says that they are lazy people and vagrants and they don't wash. She says they should not be the Council's responsibility because the 'gypsies' don't pay rates, 2.30 mins
Track 2: She says that the 'gypsies' live on the heath. Bill Holland says that there used to be a few families, but now there are lots of people who are very untidy and leave piles of scrap and rubbish. Mrs Holland says she has never seen them been nasty to their children; she objects to their dirt and nasty habits. Her husband says that they would prefer them to live far away from people who live decently, 2.26 mins
Track 3: They talk about travellers asking them for water - they have stopped giving them water since since some were abusive and cheeky. Mrs Holland says that a her neighbour, who was a nurse, cooked some food for them and they then expected it from her. She says that they wouldn't be in Poole if one of her neighbours hadn't stood up for them, 2.39 mins
Track 4: She says she does not understand why her neighbour encouraged them to come here. She says that they choose to be filthy and dirty even though they have money, 2.45 mins
Track 5: A man says that travellers should live away from civilization and the Council should not allow them to settle. They talk about travellers having money - Charles Parker suggests that they need money because they deal in scrap metal, 1.34 mins
Track 6: She says that the local travellers are not 'clean-living gypsies'. She talks about calling the police to move gypsies on. She says that she cannot understand their speech and the adults can't read although their children can, 2.28 mins
Track 7: They talk about toilets and paying rates for hospitals, she says travellers should clean themselves up, 2.03 mins
Track 8: Bill Holland talks about the increase in the numbers of travellers over the last few years. They discuss the bad condition of the local road and say that the money spent on facilities for travellers should be spent on the roads, 2.50 mins
Track 9: They say that it is a good idea to establish a camp for travellers, but that the camp should be further away from Poole and they should settle on the heath, not the road. They say that they camp too near the road, 2.43 mins
Track 10: They talk about the local Council's problems in setting up a camp in Poole because it does not have suitable land. They say that they have written to the Council to complain but nothing has been done, 2.01 mins
Track 11: Bill says that he works in an iron foundry. They talk about hearing the travellers shouting at night. They say that the land where the travellers are camped has been sold for development, 1.48 mins
Track 12: They talk about the bad condition of the local roads and drains, 0.53 mins
Track 13: She says that the travellers are very good to their children and it is sad that they live in such conditions and the parents should be ashamed that they are so dirty, 2.03 mins
Track 14: Charles Parker asks whether they think that the children are ill-fed: they say they are not, but they should be ashamed of being so dirty. She talks about travellers she knows in Scotland, who were clean, 1.39 mins
Track 15: They talk about dirty habits. Mrs Holland talks about not having a toilet when she was young and say that her family were clean people, 1.56 mins
Charles Parker talks to Mr and Mrs Rodgers about travellers in Poole.
Track 16: Mr Rodgers says that the travellers in the local area are not 'true Romany', they 'scrounge', and leave scrap for everyone to clear up, 2.37 mins
Track 17: He talks about 'being pestered' by travellers asking for water, old clothes, and scrap iron. He says he feels sorry for their 'kiddies'. He tells Charles Parker that he works in the chemical industry, 1.49 mins
Track 18: Charles Parker asks about unions at his work and suggests that it's tragic that travellers can't organize. Mr Rodgers says that travellers don't help themselves, 2.05 mins
Track 19: Charles Parker says that it's hard to keep clean if you don't have running water. He asks Mrs Rodgers about her dealings with travellers - she talks about them asking for water. They talk about the increase in the number of caravans. Mr Rodgers says that local travellers are not 'true Romany' but 'diddakoi' and they don't want to work, 2.29 mins
Track 20: He says that nobody objected when travellers were on the move and didn't congregate and talks about the problems with the encampment near his house, 2.03 mins
Tracks 21-22: He says that the law does not allow him to put a caravan in his drive but travellers can put caravans wherever they like. He says that he has worked hard since he came out of the Forces but travellers do not help themselves and they steal. He says that most people want travellers to live out of sight.
Track 23: Silence, 0.46 mins
Charles Parker talks to a group of men.
Track 24: A man talk about the stereotypical image of a 'gypsy', but the real people are very different. Another man says that he would move them out of built up areas and they should live in the New Forest. He says he would not like to have a 'coloured man' living near him. He says that Britain should be British, 2.55 mins
Track 25: He says that he would not let his daughter marry 'a coloured man' and people should not be condemned for saying this. Charles Parker asks if he feels the same about 'gypsies', 0.58 mins
Track 26: Another man talks about driving down to Cornwall and to Kent and not seeing any caravans and seeing travellers on the A2. He says that the local travellers are 'diddakois' not 'gypsies'. He says that there are not very many travellers in the South of England and says they should be dispersed, 3.00 mins
Track 27: Charles Parker asks how he can tell the difference between a traveller's caravan and a holidaymaker's. He talks about hearing the King of the Gypsies speak. He says that travellers are not poor, 1.44 mins
Track 28: A woman says that she wouldn't mind living next door to a coloured person providing they were clean. Her husband talks about not liking coloured people. Another man talks about people objecting to 'lots of coloured people living in one house'. He says he has worked with a 'coloured man', 1.58 mins
Track 29: He talks about people coming in to this country and paying no taxes. Charles Parker suggests that the papers don't report cases of hardworking people, 1.04 mins
Track 30: Charles Parker asks whether he was always clean during the War: he says not. They discuss whether people want to be clean, 2.41 mins
Total: 1.03.12 mins
Dubber's reference number: PLA KF549C0336680 |