| Description | Interview with a group of men in the Royal Bar, Londonderry. A number of Orange songs are sung during the discussion.
Track 1: One of the men continues singing 'The Sash My Father Wore' 1.54 mins
Track 2: The man discusses learning Orange songs in his childhood from his parents 0.56 mins
Track 3: He sings 'Derry Apprentice Boys' 1.47 mins
Track 4: He talks about the occasions on which the song would be sung, including 12th July, 12th August and 18th December, and the strength of feeling about the commemoration of the efforts of the apprentice boys to close the city gates against King James II's troops in 1688-1689 3.11 mins
Track 5: The men sing 'I Was Born Under a Union Jack' and talk about learning Protestant songs through living in a Protestant area 1.22 mins
Tracks 6-8: Some of the men talk about learning Catholic songs when they grew up on the Creggan estate, and name some of these songs, but emphasises that he sings Orange songs now. Another man remembers some Catholics coming to a Protestant area and singing insults to provoke them into making trouble, and feeling resentment at being in the minority in Derry. They feel that they are discriminated against because the 12th August parades are banned, and feel that it is not young people but adults and international students who are responsible for causing civil disruption the previous August (1969)
Track 9: Silence 0.47 mins
Track 10: Man sings a version of 'There'll Always Be An England' with reference to Ulster, and talk about Unionist slogans 1.17 mins
Tracks 11-12: A woman joins the discussion to talk about the environment in the Bogside, and her feeling that people get stirred up to demonstrate. She contrasts this with the community environment in her Protestant area and the sense of solidarity, and expresses her view that most Protestants see the struggle as a political battle rather than a religious battle and are not against Catholics because of their religion.
Track 13: A woman sings songs beginning 'We're Proud of Our Wee Ulster' and 'Our Red White and Blue' 0.38 mins
Tracks 14-17: The group discuss their determination to work when they can rather than receive unemployment benefits, and a man discusses the employment of Catholics by his Protestant employer. Other members of the group recount incidents where they or their friends have not been able to find work in Catholic businesses because they were Protestant. They think that work is available in the city for people who want it, and discuss their feelings that they are discriminated against as Protestants. They think that the Protestant point of view was unrepresented in the English media during the disturbances in August 1969, and that people in English are not as patriotic as they are because they did not stand for the national anthem. One man talks about being unemployed, having people shouting insults at him, and discusses the symbolism of the Red Hand of Ulster badge that he wears
Total: 33.03 mins
Dubber's reference number: PLA KF571E0552180 |